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Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/25/2010 8:24:27 PM
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CalRed
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I know many people on thisforum probably voted for this guy and I think you should know where he stands.
Listen to what he says carefully and then you will know all you need to know about him.
This will probably not be on the internet very long as he will have it pulled so read it soon.
Obama admits to being a Muslim
Just click on it and watch it all. you'll be very surprised...
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/25/2010 8:46:27 PM
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That is a very severely edited video taken from many different videos. They are all very small clips of larger conversations or speeches, and are very much taken out of context of what was being said. I saw this video several months ago, and thought the same thing you are thinking now... until I hunted down the videos that I could find that are clipped here. If watched as a whole and in their proper context, it is hard to come to the same conclusion. Am I saying that Obama is NOT a Muslim? No. But this video cannot be taken as evidence to prove it.
Edited to change wording of sentence.
< Message edited by tsnody2001 -- 1/25/2010 9:25:10 PM >
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/25/2010 8:52:13 PM
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Just to add to my last post.
I believe Barack Obama is a liar and has lied about many different things. Many of them are documented very well. I even believe he has lied to the American people about his real faith. But this video is a hatchet job, and not a very good one at that.
I can do the same thing this video does with many different things. For example, I can take certain verses of the Bible, or any other book for that matter, and take it out of context, and make it say whatever I want it to say.
If this video were going to be taken off the internet, it would have been taken already. It has been around for quite some time now.
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/25/2010 9:09:47 PM
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I saw several of these clips a long time ago. Tsnody, in what way are the meanings of what he said any different when you see the entire video?
I have been saying for months that Obama is a Muslim because he was raised in the Islamic faith and attended the mosque in Indonesia with his stepfather. Islam was written after "religion" on his school record. I can't remember if it was in Hawaii or Indonesia, but I saw a picture of it. He is also loved and welcomed into the arms of his Kenyan relatives who are all Muslims. If he had truly converted to Christianity, they would not even speak to him. He speaks often in favor of Islam but barely says a positive word about Christianity. He had a dinner at the WH celebrating the beginning of Ramadan but ignored the National Day of Prayer. He has not made any attempt to find a new church since leaving Trinity and I don't think he paid much attention to Christmas as a religious holiday. And now there will soon be a postage stamp celebrating Eid, in Arabic, of course, and we are expected to put that on our letters.
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/25/2010 9:37:56 PM
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I agree with you Milliecat. I believe he is Muslim, for precisely the reasons you have stated, and some more. But the OP says that Obama admits his Muslim faith, and that just isn't so in this video. In the very beginning he says, "And I am one of them." That is taken out of context. What he was talking about was being a person from a family that comes from a Muslim nation and culture. In the TV interview where he says "my Muslim faith", that is taken out of context. You should be able to notice how each of the small clips are cut precisely so, some in mid-sentence, or in mid-thought. Now the longer clips are more damning because they are not so much taken out of context.
I am not disagreeing with you or the OP in believing that Obama is Muslim, or at least is lying about his Christian faith. All I am saying is that this video doesn't contain what the title of it says it contains.
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/25/2010 10:25:19 PM
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Milliecat
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quote:
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I agree with you Milliecat. I believe he is Muslim, for precisely the reasons you have stated, and some more. But the OP says that Obama admits his Muslim faith, and that just isn't so in this video. In the very beginning he says, "And I am one of them." That is taken out of context. What he was talking about was being a person from a family that comes from a Muslim nation and culture. In the TV interview where he says "my Muslim faith", that is taken out of context. You should be able to notice how each of the small clips are cut precisely so, some in mid-sentence, or in mid-thought. Now the longer clips are more damning because they are not so much taken out of context.
I am not disagreeing with you or the OP in believing that Obama is Muslim, or at least is lying about his Christian faith. All I am saying is that this video doesn't contain what the title of it says it contains.
And you're right, he's not really admitting to anything, except to say, "my Muslim faith". I don't see how that can be taken out of context because if he weren't Muslim, wouldn't he say "the Muslim faith"? I mean, it sounds as if he is claiming it. But I didn't watch the interview. I give you a lot of credit for watching all of the videos. The teleprompter helps a LOT. He really gives agonizing interviews. He keeps going on and on and keeps saying "uh", "and uh", etc. It is torture for me to listen to him.
However, someone said to me in another thread and I believe you will remember what I am talking about. Someone told me to keep speaking out even if I'm called a conspiracy theorist because people need to know the truth. Some people will never listen but some will. In this case, I think that someone who knows Obama is a Muslim, wants to spell it out for people so they will be aware. It's not that he's Muslim that is bothering to me. It's that he portrayed himself as a Christian. Many people might not have voted for him if they had known the truth. So, what is troubling is that he, once again, lied. I have read a lot about him and he began attending Trinity way back before he became a politician. Jeremiah Wright was a very important person in that area of the city. He needed Jeremiah Wright.
Anyway, if Obama doesn't ever admit what he really is, but some people can see through what he says about his faith, those people need to tell the truth. I say it all of the time. I say he is a Marxist and a closet Muslim. The people who made this video only have words, like holy koran(with an Arabic accent) spoken over and over, denying that there is any kind of war with Islam (he's using the word Islam instead of terror because he thinks people will then agree), saying he's one of them, (I didn't see the video but I assume he said he is one of them, referring to his Kenyan family) but if they are Muslim and he is not, there would be a problem there. So they cut up some videos in order to at least make people think. I don't see anything wrong with that because if people watch the video and come away thinking he's Muslim, they will be right. It's not like they are spreading a lie in the video. He will never come out and say he's Muslim. He wanted to be the president so that is why he covered it up in the first place. People were so mesmerized with him before the election that they didn't pay any attention. Maybe they will now, at least to see that he lied, if for no other reason.
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/26/2010 6:24:22 AM
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ORIGINAL: tsnody2001
That is a very severely edited video taken from many different videos. They are all very small clips of larger conversations or speeches, and are very much taken out of context of what was being said. I saw this video several months ago, and thought the same thing you are thinking now... until I hunted down the videos that I could find that are clipped here. If watched as a whole and in their proper context, it is hard to come to the same conclusion. Am I saying that Obama is NOT a Muslim? No. But this video cannot be taken as evidence to prove it.
Edited to change wording of sentence.
Oh come on, it was posted on the internet and that makes it true!
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/26/2010 2:31:40 PM
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CalRed
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Even with the "splices" there is no doubt what he is saying. To not understand this man would be idiotic when he makes it so clear.
Don't blame the messenger. Listen to the message. You can't miss that!
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/26/2010 2:44:36 PM
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quote:
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quote:
ORIGINAL: tsnody2001
That is a very severely edited video taken from many different videos. They are all very small clips of larger conversations or speeches, and are very much taken out of context of what was being said. I saw this video several months ago, and thought the same thing you are thinking now... until I hunted down the videos that I could find that are clipped here. If watched as a whole and in their proper context, it is hard to come to the same conclusion. Am I saying that Obama is NOT a Muslim? No. But this video cannot be taken as evidence to prove it.
Edited to change wording of sentence.
Oh come on, it was posted on the internet and that makes it true!
But was it on FOXRepublicanNews?
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/28/2010 2:07:19 PM
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I hear both.
What he's says,
and what he wants us to hear.
Definitely two opposing views.
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/28/2010 10:55:30 PM
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ORIGINAL: CalRed
Even with the "splices" there is no doubt what he is saying. To not understand this man would be idiotic when he makes it so clear.
Don't blame the messenger. Listen to the message. You can't miss that!
Do you seriously believe if he had actually admitted to this that it would only be broadcast on Youtube?. Think about it; this would have been big news that would have headlined all the news outlets. You can't just believe something because you want it to be true.
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/29/2010 10:12:37 AM
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Interesting read:
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama.htm
A couple years ago, I added my email address to my Bible Study class list for receiving prayer requests & updates and news about class ministries. Last night I received a link to the one in the OP from a man on the list who never even wrote to say "hello" before, much less prayer or ministry related messages. Yet he felt compelled to send everyone on the list a politically motivated link like that. I did not appreciate it.
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/29/2010 12:17:08 PM
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ORIGINAL: JustaFan
Do you seriously believe if he had actually admitted to this that it would only be broadcast on Youtube?.
Well you can bet the farm it would not be on MSNBC.
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/29/2010 12:22:36 PM
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ORIGINAL: Eutychus
Interesting read:
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/o/obama.htm
A couple years ago, I added my email address to my Bible Study class list for receiving prayer requests & updates and news about class ministries. Last night I received a link to the one in the OP from a man on the list who never even wrote to say "hello" before, much less prayer or ministry related messages. Yet he felt compelled to send everyone on the list a politically motivated link like that. I did not appreciate it.
My dad has a friend at work like that. I've never even met the man, and he got my e-mail addy from one of my dad's e-mails. He now sends me about 40-50 political e-mails a day. Needless to say, I don't use that account much, and the "delete" button has become my best friend.
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/29/2010 1:24:31 PM
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tsnody2001
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My dad has a friend at work like that. I've never even met the man, and he got my e-mail addy from one of my dad's e-mails. He now sends me about 40-50 political e-mails a day. Needless to say, I don't use that account much, and the "delete" button has become my best friend.
Have you tried just telling him to stop?
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/30/2010 1:52:42 AM
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Obama is no more a Muslim than I am a Catholic despite that fact that I attended catechism, was confirmed, and all that as a child. Like McCain and many other people of power and influence, I doubt he spends much time thinking about God or religion at all, playing the part only as necessary to be an acceptable candidate. I'm sure he can recite prayers and rituals of his childhood just as I can recite Hail Mary and "Bless me father for I have sinned, it has been 45 year since my last confession".
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RE: Obama Admite to being a Muslim - 1/30/2010 3:34:13 AM
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Obama is no more a Muslim than I am a Catholic despite that fact that I attended catechism, was confirmed, and all that as a child. Like McCain and many other people of power and influence, I doubt he spends much time thinking about God or religion at all, playing the part only as necessary to be an acceptable candidate. I'm sure he can recite prayers and rituals of his childhood just as I can recite Hail Mary and "Bless me father for I have sinned, it has been 45 year since my last confession".
Yeah, but can you do it in a first-class Latin accent?
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