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Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/22/2010 3:50:19 PM
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Fritzpw_Admin
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Did He Get Married Too Young? Albert Mohler - Author, Speaker, President of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary You have to give David Lapp credit. The 22-year-old young man knew what he wanted, and he got her -- a wife. It wasn't easy. When David and his wife Amber told her father that they wanted to get married (at ages 22 and 21, respectively), he hit the ceiling. Thankfully, Amber's father changed his mind. The couple is now happily married, and David has told the whole world about it in an op-ed column for The Wall Street Journal. In the column, he deals head-on with objections to young marriage. He writes, "As college-educated, professionally aspiring young adults in New York, my wife and I were bucking the prevailing social script by marrying in our early 20s." Indeed, the average age for first marriage for young men is now 28, and for women it is now 26. That reflects a significant change in the way Americans live, love, and marry. We now have the twin phenomena of delayed adulthood and extended adolescence. Young Americans, by and large, are not waiting for sex . . . but they are putting marriage off into a distant future. As David Lapp reports, some social scientists argue that "early marriage" is a leading cause of marital breakup and divorce. Lapp puts that argument to flight with his point that the early marriages that fail are often teenage marriages. In his words: First, let's take a closer look at that term "early marriage." While it's true that teenage marriages are a significant predictor of divorce, it turns out that marriages of people in their early to mid-20s are not nearly as much at risk. According to a 2002 report from the Centers for Disease Control, 48% of people who enter marriage when under age 18, and 40% of 18- and 19-year-olds, will eventually divorce. But only 29% of those who get married at age 20 to 24 will eventually divorce—very similar to the 24% of the 25-and-older cohort. In fact, Hispanics who marry between the ages of 20 and 24 actually have a greater likelihood of marital success (31% chance of divorce) than those who first marry at age 25 and older (36% chance of divorce). Read the rest of Did He Get Married Too Young? Has the pendulum swung? Are people waiting to long to get married?
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/22/2010 4:24:17 PM
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Lapp is not opposed to exploration and fulfillment; he just thinks that marriage is a better way to get there and to enjoy the experience. "As focused as we young adults are on self-development, what if the path to that development is actually learning to live with and love another person?," he asks. "We may be startled to find that the greatest adventure lies not in knowing oneself as much as in knowing and committing to another person." Amen.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/22/2010 4:37:50 PM
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Are people waiting too long? Maybe some, but not all who marry late did it for "selfish" reasons. I didn't marry until 32, but it wasn't on purpose. I wanted to marry much younger, but God didn't bring my DH into my life until then.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/22/2010 5:45:53 PM
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I'd rather wait too long than not long enough to find the right person.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/22/2010 8:44:46 PM
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No, I don't think so. I wanted to finish grad school and he wanted to get a Ph.d, but we didn't really wait till we were finished to get married so to speak (we started dating again when we were both almost done with our graduate degrees). I just was not actively trying to get married, I was actively trying to get a Masters degree because that was important to me. I don't think there is anything wrong with that and I LOVE having an advanced degree!
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/22/2010 10:49:06 PM
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deermousie, i think the gals should have some job skills too! My mom always taught me that while its cool to learn to cook and all that, education was the most important thing for a girl to learn because she may never have a man to be married to! I am glad I followed her advice but I'm also glad I got married, and I am learning to cook (I learned after i got married :)
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/23/2010 12:21:58 AM
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ORIGINAL: dboe deermousie, i think the gals should have some job skills too! My mom always taught me that while its cool to learn to cook and all that, education was the most important thing for a girl to learn because she may never have a man to be married to! I am glad I followed her advice but I'm also glad I got married, and I am learning to cook (I learned after i got married :) My husband taught me how to cook, too, Dboe! Thank God one of us knew or we'd have lived on mac and cheese! LOL Yes, women should have job skills and education, too; as you say, she might never marry or might become widowed or divorced, and if she homeschools she needs to be able to educate her children. I got my teacher's credential because I figured I would never marry (I finally did in my late thirties) and needed a profession to support myself. I enjoyed the class room, and then later homeschooled my kid.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/23/2010 11:07:15 AM
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ORIGINAL: Fritzpw_Admin He writes, "As college-educated, professionally aspiring young adults in New York, my wife and I were bucking the prevailing social script by marrying in our early 20s." Indeed, the average age for first marriage for young men is now 28, and for women it is now 26. That reflects a significant change in the way Americans live, love, and marry. We now have the twin phenomena of delayed adulthood and extended adolescence. Young Americans, by and large, are not waiting for sex . . . but they are putting marriage off into a distant future. I would argue that marriage, in and of itself, is no gauge of maturity. Just as remaining single is not proof of immaturity.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/23/2010 1:07:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: dboe deermousie, i think the gals should have some job skills too! My mom always taught me that while its cool to learn to cook and all that, education was the most important thing for a girl to learn because she may never have a man to be married to! I am glad I followed her advice but I'm also glad I got married, and I am learning to cook (I learned after i got married :) Amen. My father INSISTED on college for all of us - but me and my sister especially. He wanted to be sure that we would be able to support ourselves (and our kids) should we need to.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/23/2010 3:28:35 PM
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ORIGINAL: Mollymouser I got married at 38, my wonderful DH was 37. We were both waiting on God ~ and HIS timing is perfect. Awesome testimony! It's always great to wait on God. I'm waiting on God too! And yes, HIS timing is always right and perfect. That's why I'm going to keep believing and trusting in God. I believe and have faith that God will bless me with a future husband just like He blessed you with a husband. I learned that it's better to wait on God and not settle for less than God's best than to marry the wrong partner.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/23/2010 10:54:19 PM
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I've always felt like marriage was just one of the many choices an individual got to make in his or her life. That is, until I started getting into some christian circles in college--and there was a desperation and rushing I'd never seen before. People so anxious to be wed! Such angst! People are not content as they are, so they run into marriage like one runs though a glass wall. Mostly, they come out (on the other side of marriage) all bloodied and bruised and wondering what happened. I think we should not forbid people to marry, but to tell someone there's a certain age or time to get married is just totally irrelavant. In fact, it flies in the face of God's unique individual plan for each person. I do not presume to know God's plan for each man and woman, so I pretty much make no such judgements. Who am I to know? What if, instead of teaching people arbitrary times to wed, we told them the meaning of marriage, God's principles for it, how to govern their lives by the Spirit, how to be content within themselves, win the world for Christ, and be a servant. I bet we'd have happier Christians and happier marriages.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/24/2010 7:59:46 AM
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ORIGINAL: Dakotasunbeam I've always felt like marriage was just one of the many choices an individual got to make in his or her life. That is, until I started getting into some christian circles in college--and there was a desperation and rushing I'd never seen before. People so anxious to be wed! Such angst! People are not content as they are, so they run into marriage like one runs though a glass wall. Mostly, they come out (on the other side of marriage) all bloodied and bruised and wondering what happened. I think we should not forbid people to marry, but to tell someone there's a certain age or time to get married is just totally irrelavant. In fact, it flies in the face of God's unique individual plan for each person. I do not presume to know God's plan for each man and woman, so I pretty much make no such judgements. Who am I to know? What if, instead of teaching people arbitrary times to wed, we told them the meaning of marriage, God's principles for it, how to govern their lives by the Spirit, how to be content within themselves, win the world for Christ, and be a servant. I bet we'd have happier Christians and happier marriages. Co-sign! I agree with this.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/24/2010 8:04:35 AM
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I got married at 26 after being in 2,467 weddings! I figured marriage just wasn't going to be for me (ah, the silliness of youth). Then here came H, who I'd known for 7 years! At 22, I was still pretty much an idiot, so marrying then would not have been right for me. My mom got married at 19, and it was perfect for her. Of course, MY daughter is not going to date until she's 30 (according to dad) so who knows when she'll get married!
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/24/2010 9:03:17 AM
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I think we can comment on general trends or cultural phenomena without judging the hearts of individuals. Someone very close to me is waiting on marriage for a specific reason--she feels called to go into medicine, but feels very strongly that Christian marriage should be open to children from the get-go and that babies need their mama's at home with them at least in the first year or so. That belief does not mesh well with med school, as you might imagine. So instead of putting herself in a position where she might have to compromise her convictions about marriage and family, she is simply waiting. She is also dedicated to complete celibacy before marriage. That is an honorable kind of waiting, for sure. And there are those who simply don't meet the one God wants them to marry until later in life. Dh worked with a missionary who was widowed for many years, and then married his second wife when she was in her 70's (and he was closing in on 80). She had been single and serving the Lord alone for all those decades. OTOH, I have encountered many people, both in and out of the church, who will not marry for a variety of reasons, but who feel perfectly OK with deeply intimate romantic relationships and even shacking up. They seem to be replacing maturity and marriage with sex and "keeping the back door open", which is flesh-pleasing but not particularly altruistic and certainly not God-honoring. I think that was a key point of the article, which may have been missed by people who are on the defensive about being single. There's not thing wrong with being single if that's God's calling on your life for a season or for the whole of it. This is the problem: quote:
We now have the twin phenomena of delayed adulthood and extended adolescence. Young Americans, by and large, are not waiting for sex . . . but they are putting marriage off into a distant future.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/24/2010 1:20:34 PM
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If we are to live as though God's word is true, then time, place, reason, desire, circumstances would have nothing to do with when people should get married. If God directs us to marry someone, then we should do it. If we are not directed, than don't. Waiting on the Lord's direction has no time limit.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/24/2010 1:21:41 PM
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No, I don't think so. I wanted to finish grad school and he wanted to get a Ph.d, but we didn't really wait till we were finished to get married so to speak (we started dating again when we were both almost done with our graduate degrees). I just was not actively trying to get married, I was actively trying to get a Masters degree because that was important to me. I don't think there is anything wrong with that and I LOVE having an advanced degree! So where was God involved in the decision making process?
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/24/2010 3:46:05 PM
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I believe that God's timing is the only timing that matters in marriage. H and I knew each other 7 years before we got married. I was even engaged to someone else (yuk, don't want to go there!). But 1994 was God's time for us to marry. On a related note, I think that if it is God's time for you to marry, and you marry God's person for you, the desire, open doors, etc. will be there. If you view marriage as strictly utilitarian, you better make sure your spouse does too, otherwise, they are going to be lonely and miserable wishing they had a spouse who loved them.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/24/2010 4:37:13 PM
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What laughinggirl and Mollymouser said was true for me and my husband as well (I was 35, he was 42-- first marriage for both). As far as extended adolescence, that's a cultural thing that's not necessarily "solved" by marriage. We personally know far too many husbands and fathers who waste hours and hours a week on video games and sports viewing.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/25/2010 1:17:46 AM
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Are people waiting to long to get married? No. It's never too late for someone to get married. Society in general is not waiting too long to get married, they're having intimate physical relationships too early (as in, before marriage). Age is not the most important factor in deciding when to marry. God's timing, your readiness, and your significant other's readiness for marriage are most important.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/25/2010 1:24:57 AM
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Mmm in response to who asked, God was very active in my decision making process as to the TYPE of degree I got, based on skills He gave me, areas that interested me, and a helping profession.. although I think any profession can be based on Godly decision making, I knew He wanted me to help people in my job and make money (although again any profession can accomplish that). Also I knew He wanted me to be sufficient in a changing world and also, to become more educated about the world which He made :)
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/25/2010 10:14:13 AM
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There was a study that our tv news (WUSA9.com) had on earlier this week about female fertility taking a drop after age 30, and while not preceptious, the study concluded that the safest and best pregnancies shoud be before age 30. It seems from biology that God intended us to be married either in the late teens or early 20s. IMO it is the cultural attitude of extended adolescence that causes huge problems for society; with high divorce rates being only one.
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RE: Are people waiting to long to get married? - 2/25/2010 10:03:20 PM
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ORIGINAL: DaveW There was a study that our tv news (WUSA9.com) had on earlier this week about female fertility taking a drop after age 30, and while not preceptious, the study concluded that the safest and best pregnancies shoud be before age 30. It seems from biology that God intended us to be married either in the late teens or early 20s. IMO it is the cultural attitude of extended adolescence that causes huge problems for society; with high divorce rates being only one. Since I don't believe having biological children is the most important reason to get married (as you can see from my earlier post it doesn't even make top 3), I still don't think people are waiting too long to get married. But I definitely agree with you about the cultural attitude of extended adolescence.
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