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Matthew 24 verse 15 and Luke 21 verse 20 is not the same event. Matthew 24-15 is after the diaspora. Luke 21-20 puts his event before the diaspora.

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In verse 14, He's wrapping up His summary on the signs of His coming: the things WE are to look for before His return.

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|2532| And
|2784| will be proclaimed
|5124| this
|2098| Good News
|3588| of the
|0932| kingdom
|1722| in
|3680| all
|3588| the
|3625| inhabited earth
|1519| for
|3142| a testimony
|3956| to all
|3588| the
|1484| nations,
|2532| and
|5119| then
|2240| will come
|3588| the
|5156| end.

Strong's Ref. # 3625
Romanized oikoumene
Pronounced oy-kou-men'-ay

feminine participle present passive of GSN3611 (as noun, by implication of GSN1093); land, i.e. the (terrene part of the) globe; specifically, the Roman empire:
KJV--earth, world.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecumene

Ecumene (also spelled œcumene or oikoumene) a term originally used in the Greco-Roman world to refer to the inhabited earth (or at least the known part of it). The term derives from the Greek οἰκουμένη (oikouménē, the feminine present middle participle of the verb οἰκέω, oikéō, "to inhabit"), short for οἰκουμένη γῆ "inhabited world".[1] In modern connotations it refers either to the projection of a united Christian Church or to world civilizations.

Over time, the word came to mean the civilized world, and to be synonymous with the Roman Empire. This usage continued after the division of the Empire into East and West, and the East Roman Emperors would use the term to describe their imperial administration. Constantinople itself came to be known as the "Ecumenical City". The word was adopted within Christianity, especially for Synods called by the Emperors and composed of bishops throughout the world (see Ecumenical Councils).

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Luther became convinced that the prophecies of Daniel were about the Roman Catholic Church and that Papal Rome was indeed the antichrist of the Bible prophecy. Hundreds of thousands of people left the RCC. In retaliation the RCC began a campaign to counter the claims of Luther at the Council of Trent. The Jesuits were commissioned by the Pope to develop a new interpretation of Scripture that would counteract the Protestant application of the RCC. Francisco Ribera, a Jesuit priest published a commentary on Revelation as a counter-interpretation in 1590. Ribera applied all of Revelation except the earliest chapters to the end time rather than to the history of the Church. Antichrist would be a single evil person who would be received by the Jews and would rebuild the temple. “Ribera denied the Protestant Scriptural Antichrist (2 Thessalonians 2) as seated in the church of God—asserted by Augustine, Jerome, Luther and many reformers. He set on an infidel Antichrist, outside the church of God.

For almost 300 years the Jesuit Futurism remained largely inside the RCC but in the 1800s the process of adoption into the Protestants began. There were many steps to this adoption but it really all came to a head with Nelson Darby when he became a strong promoter of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture followed by a one man antichrist; this teaching became the hallmark of Dispensationalist. It was Darby who laid much of the foundation for the present popular removal of Daniel’s 70th week away from history and applied it to a future tribulation after the rapture. Cyrus Ingerson Scofield later adopted the teaching of Darby into his Scofield Reference Bible and this doctrine became firmly established inside the 20th century American Church

These are the facts as I see them from my research.

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And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the ROMAN EMPIRE (oikoumene) for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the TREMBLING (tromos) come.

When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: For then shall be great tribulation (thlipsis), such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Matthew 24:14-22 (KJV)

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And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people. And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled. Luke 21:20-24 (KJV)

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ORIGINAL: bob97

Here is what Adam Clark has to say about Dan 9:24...


Seventy weeks are determined—The Jews had Sabbatic years, Leviticus 25:8, by which their years were divided into weeks of years, as in this important prophecy, each week containing seven years. The seventy weeks therefore here spoken of amount to four hundred and ninety years.
In verse 24 there are six events mentioned which should be the consequences of the incarnation of our Lord:—

I. To finish (‏לכלא‎ lechalle, to restrain), the transgression which was effected by the preaching of the Gospel, and pouring out of the Holy Ghost among men. (First part of Acts)

II. To make an end of sins; rather ‏ולהתם חטאות‎ ulehathem chataoth, "to make an end of sin-offerings," which our Lord did when he offered his spotless soul and body on the cross once for all.

III. To make reconciliation (‏ולכפר‎ ulechapper, "to make atonement or expiation") for iniquity; which he did by the once offering up of himself.

IV. To bring in everlasting righteousness, ‏צדק עלמים‎ tsedek olamim, that is, "the righteousness, or righteous ONE, of ages;" that person who had been the object of the faith of mankind, and the subject of the predictions of the prophets through all the ages of the world.

V. To seal up (‏ולחתם‎ velachtom, "to finish or complete") the vision and prophecy; that is, to put an end to the necessity of any farther revelations, by completing the canon of Scripture, and fulfilling the prophecies which related to his person, sacrifice, and the glory that should follow.

VI. And to anoint the Most Holy, ‏קדש קדשים‎ kodesh kodashim, "the Holy of holies." ‏משיח‎ mashach, to anoint, (from which comes ‏משיח‎ mashiach, the Messiah, the anointed one), signifies in general, to consecrate or appoint to some special office. Here it means the consecration or appointment of our blessed Lord, the Holy One of Israel, to be the Prophet, Priest, and King of mankind.

In Messiah,

Bob

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ORIGINAL: bob97

Marv...what was the purpose of Christ when he came to this earth as a man; the purpose as stated in the four gospels? The next question is did He fulfill this purpose or was His death in vain?

In Messiah,

Bob

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We are taking about Prophecy. Christ did fulfill His purpose, His death was not in vain. But when are Israel and Jerusalem going to fulfill their purpose. We as Gentiles have been grafted into the Vine because of Christs Death and Resurrection. But when are the Jews to be re grafted back into the Vine. For this is what Daniel 9:24 - 27 is all about. The future re grafting of Israel back into the Vine.

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This event never happened in the 11th century. Where was the 2nd battle of Gog and Magog? Or the first for that matter? Those events never happened. The white throne judgement has never occured as far as I know.

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Daniel 11
6 And in the end of years they shall join themselves together; for the king's daughter of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement: but she shall not retain the power of the arm; neither shall he stand, nor his arm: but she shall be given up, and they that brought her, and he that begat her, and he that strengthened her in these times.

The end of years would be the 70th week. This is a end time prophecy. What happened in the ancient world that looked like it was fulfilling the prophecy is irrevelent. It never fit the timeframe of the prophecy.

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And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

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It is simply impossible that Jerusalem in 70 AD fulfilled the prophecy of Matthew 24. The world would have been destroyed and the new world and Jerusalem would be here by now. The question being answered is "what is the sign of the end of the world?"

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“Tell us, when will this (the destruction of the Temple) happen?

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ORIGINAL: Stormcrow

One more thing:

You don't need Daniel's 70th week to understand Revelation. It's immaterial to Revelation since it (the 70th week) has already been fulfilled.

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Right. The Great Tribulation is over, the Millenium is over, Satan is already in the Lake of Fire, the New Heavens and the New Earth have been established, and we are all now living in the best of all possible worlds.

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It's amazing how some can be so deluded.